Hebrews 12:8

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{ "verseID": "Hebrews.12.8", "source": "Εἰ δὲ χωρίς ἐστε παιδείας, ἧς μέτοχοι γεγόνασιν πάντες, ἄρα νόθοι ἐστὲ, καὶ οὐχ υἱοί.", "text": "If but without you are *paideias*, of which *metochoi* have *gegonasin* all, then *nothoi* you are, and not *huioi*.", "grammar": { "*paideias*": "noun, genitive, singular, feminine - of discipline/training/instruction", "*metochoi*": "noun, nominative, plural, masculine - partakers/participants/sharers", "*gegonasin*": "verb, perfect active indicative, 3rd person plural - have become/have been made", "*nothoi*": "noun, nominative, plural, masculine - illegitimate children/bastards", "*huioi*": "noun, nominative, plural, masculine - sons" }, "variants": { "*paideias*": "discipline/training/instruction/chastening", "*metochoi*": "partakers/participants/sharers/partners", "*nothoi*": "illegitimate children/bastards/those born out of wedlock" } }

📖 Grammatical Analysis

Original Text

Εἰ δὲ χωρίς ἐστε παιδείας, ἧς μέτοχοι γεγόνασιν πάντες, ἄρα νόθοι ἐστὲ, καὶ οὐχ υἱοί.

Transliteration

If but without you are paideias, of which metochoi have gegonasin all, then nothoi you are, and not huioi.

Grammar Details

• *paideias*: noun, genitive, singular, feminine - of discipline/training/instruction
• *metochoi*: noun, nominative, plural, masculine - partakers/participants/sharers
• *gegonasin*: verb, perfect active indicative, 3rd person plural - have become/have been made
• *nothoi*: noun, nominative, plural, masculine - illegitimate children/bastards
• *huioi*: noun, nominative, plural, masculine - sons

Word Meanings

• *paideias*: discipline/training/instruction/chastening
• *metochoi*: partakers/participants/sharers/partners
• *nothoi*: illegitimate children/bastards/those born out of wedlock

Other Translations

• Linguistic Bible Translation from Source Texts

  If you are not disciplined—and everyone undergoes discipline—then you are illegitimate children and not true sons.

• King James Version 1769 (Standard Version)

  But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

• KJV1611 – Modern English

  But if you are without chastisement, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons.

• King James Version 1611 (Original)

  But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

• American Standard Version with Strong's Numbers

  But if ye are without chastening, whereof all have been made partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

• King James Version with Strong's Numbers

  But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

• Tyndale Bible (1526/1534)

  If ye be not vnder correccio (where of all are part takers) then are ye bastardes and not sonnes.

• Coverdale Bible (1535)

  Yf ye be not vnder correccion (wherof all are partakers) then are ye bastardes and not sonnes.

• Geneva Bible (1560)

  If therefore ye be without correction, whereof al are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sonnes.

• Bishops' Bible (1568)

  But yf ye be without chastisment, wherof all are partakers, then are ye bastardes, and not sonnes.

• Authorized King James Version (1611)

  But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

• Webster's Bible (1833)

  But if you are without discipline, of which all have been made partakers, then are you illegitimate, and not children.

• Young's Literal Translation (1862/1898)

  and if ye are apart from chastening, of which all have become partakers, then bastards are ye, and not sons.

• American Standard Version (1901)

  But if ye are without chastening, whereof all have been made partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

• American Standard Version (1901)

  But if ye are without chastening, whereof all have been made partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

• Bible in Basic English (1941)

  But if you have not that punishment of which we all have our part, then you are not true sons, but children of shame.

• World English Bible (2000)

  But if you are without discipline, of which all have been made partakers, then are you illegitimate, and not children.

• NET Bible® (New English Translation)

  But if you do not experience discipline, something all sons have shared in, then you are illegitimate and are not sons.

Referenced Verses

• Ps 73:1 : 1 { "verseID": "Psalms.73.1", "source": "מִזְמ֗וֹר לְאָ֫סָ֥ף אַ֤ךְ ט֖וֹב לְיִשְׂרָאֵ֥ל אֱלֹהִ֗ים לְבָרֵ֥י לֵבָֽב׃", "text": "*Mizmor* to *Asaph*. *Ak* good to *Yisrael* is *Elohim*, to [the] *barei levav*.", "grammar": { "*Mizmor*": "noun, masculine, singular - psalm", "to *Asaph*": "preposition lamed + proper noun - belonging to/for Asaph", "*Ak*": "adverb - surely/truly/only", "good": "adjective, masculine, singular", "to *Yisrael*": "preposition lamed + proper noun", "*Elohim*": "noun, masculine, plural (divine name) - God", "*barei levav*": "adjective construct + noun - pure of heart" }, "variants": { "*Mizmor*": "psalm/melody/song", "*Asaph*": "proper name (temple musician/psalmist)", "*Ak*": "surely/truly/only/nevertheless", "*Elohim*": "God/gods/divine being (plural form used for singular deity)", "*barei levav*": "pure of heart/clean-hearted ones" } }
• Ps 73:14-15 : 14 { "verseID": "Psalms.73.14", "source": "וָאֱהִ֣י נָ֭גוּעַ כָּל־הַיּ֑וֹם וְ֝תוֹכַחְתִּ֗י לַבְּקָרִֽים׃", "text": "*Wa'ehi nagua' kol-hayyom*, *wetokhachti labbeqarim*.", "grammar": { "*Wa'ehi*": "conjunction + verb, qal imperfect with waw consecutive, 1st person singular - and I was", "*nagua'*": "verb, passive participle, masculine singular - struck/afflicted", "*kol-hayyom*": "noun, masculine singular construct + article + noun, masculine singular - all the day", "*wetokhachti*": "conjunction + noun, feminine singular construct + 1st person singular suffix - and my chastisement", "*labbeqarim*": "preposition + article + noun, masculine plural - at the mornings" }, "variants": { "*hayah*": "was/became/existed", "*nagua'*": "struck/afflicted/plagued", "*kol-hayyom*": "all the day/every day", "*tokhachah*": "chastisement/reproof/rebuke", "*beqarim*": "mornings/every morning" } } 15 { "verseID": "Psalms.73.15", "source": "אִם־אָ֭מַרְתִּי אֲסַפְּרָ֥ה כְמ֑וֹ הִנֵּ֤ה ד֭וֹר בָּנֶ֣יךָ בָגָֽדְתִּי׃", "text": "*Im-amarti asapperah kemo*; *hinneh dor banekha bagadti*.", "grammar": { "*Im-amarti*": "conjunction + verb, qal perfect, 1st person singular - if I had said", "*asapperah*": "verb, piel imperfect cohortative, 1st person singular - I will tell/relate", "*kemo*": "adverb - thus/like this", "*hinneh*": "interjection - behold", "*dor*": "noun, masculine singular construct - generation of", "*banekha*": "noun, masculine plural construct + 2nd person masculine singular suffix - your children", "*bagadti*": "verb, qal perfect, 1st person singular - I have betrayed" }, "variants": { "*amarti*": "I said/spoke", "*sappar*": "tell/recount/relate", "*kemo*": "thus/like this/so", "*dor*": "generation/period/age", "*banim*": "children/sons/descendants", "*bagad*": "betrayed/dealt treacherously" } }
• Heb 12:6 : 6 { "verseID": "Hebrews.12.6", "source": "Ὃν γὰρ ἀγαπᾷ Κύριος παιδεύει, μαστιγοῖ δὲ πάντα υἱὸν ὃν παραδέχεται.", "text": "Whom for *agapa Kyrios paideuei*, *mastigoi* and every *huion* whom *paradechetai*.", "grammar": { "*agapa*": "verb, present active indicative, 3rd person singular - loves", "*Kyrios*": "noun, nominative, singular, masculine - Lord", "*paideuei*": "verb, present active indicative, 3rd person singular - disciplines/trains/instructs", "*mastigoi*": "verb, present active indicative, 3rd person singular - scourges/whips/chastises", "*huion*": "noun, accusative, singular, masculine - son", "*paradechetai*": "verb, present middle/passive indicative, 3rd person singular - receives/accepts/acknowledges" }, "variants": { "*agapa*": "loves/cherishes", "*paideuei*": "disciplines/trains/instructs/chastens", "*mastigoi*": "scourges/whips/chastises/flogs", "*paradechetai*": "receives/accepts/acknowledges/welcomes" } }
• 1 Pet 5:9-9 : 9 { "verseID": "1 Peter.5.9", "source": "ᾯ ἀντίστητε στερεοὶ τῇ πίστει, εἰδότες τὰ αὐτὰ τῶν παθημάτων τῇ ἐν κόσμῳ ὑμῶν ἀδελφότητι ἐπιτελεῖσθαι.", "text": "Whom *antistēte* *stereoi* in the *pistei*, *eidotes* the same of the *pathēmatōn* to the in *kosmō* of you *adelphotēti* *epiteleisthai*.", "grammar": { "*antistēte*": "aorist, imperative, active, 2nd person plural - resist/oppose/withstand", "*stereoi*": "nominative, masculine, plural - firm/solid/steadfast", "*pistei*": "dative, feminine, singular - in faith/by faith", "*eidotes*": "perfect participle, active, nominative, masculine, plural - knowing/having known", "*pathēmatōn*": "genitive, neuter, plural - of sufferings", "*kosmō*": "dative, masculine, singular - in world", "*adelphotēti*": "dative, feminine, singular - to brotherhood/to brotherhood of believers", "*epiteleisthai*": "present, infinitive, passive - to be accomplished/completed/experienced" }, "variants": { "*antistēte*": "resist/oppose/withstand/stand firm against", "*stereoi*": "firm/solid/steadfast/strong", "*pistei*": "faith/trust/belief", "*eidotes*": "knowing/being aware/having known", "*pathēmatōn*": "sufferings/afflictions/hardships", "*kosmō*": "world/ordered system/universe", "*adelphotēti*": "brotherhood/family of believers/community of brothers", "*epiteleisthai*": "to be accomplished/experienced/fulfilled/completed" } } 10 { "verseID": "1 Peter.5.10", "source": "Ὁ δὲ Θεὸς πάσης χάριτος, ὁ καλέσας ἡμᾶς εἰς τὴν αἰώνιον αὐτοῦ δόξαν ἐν Χριστῷ Ἰησοῦ, ὀλίγον παθόντας αὐτὸς, καταρτίσαι ὑμᾶς, στηρίξαι, σθενώσαι, θεμελιώσαι.", "text": "But the *Theos* of all *charitos*, the one having *kalesas* us into the *aiōnion* of him *doxan* in *Christō* *Iēsou*, a little having *pathontas* himself, may *katartisai* you, may *stērixai*, may *sthenōsai*, may *themeliōsai*.", "grammar": { "*Theos*": "nominative, masculine, singular - God", "*charitos*": "genitive, feminine, singular - of grace", "*kalesas*": "aorist participle, active, nominative, masculine, singular - having called", "*aiōnion*": "accusative, feminine, singular - eternal", "*doxan*": "accusative, feminine, singular - glory", "*Christō*": "dative, masculine, singular - in Christ", "*Iēsou*": "dative, masculine, singular - in Jesus", "*pathontas*": "aorist participle, active, accusative, masculine, plural - having suffered", "*katartisai*": "aorist, optative, active, 3rd person singular - may restore/perfect/complete", "*stērixai*": "aorist, optative, active, 3rd person singular - may establish/strengthen/fix firmly", "*sthenōsai*": "aorist, optative, active, 3rd person singular - may strengthen/make strong", "*themeliōsai*": "aorist, optative, active, 3rd person singular - may ground/establish/found" }, "variants": { "*charitos*": "grace/favor/goodwill", "*kalesas*": "having called/invited/summoned", "*aiōnion*": "eternal/everlasting/age-lasting", "*doxan*": "glory/honor/splendor", "*pathontas*": "having suffered/experienced affliction", "*katartisai*": "restore/perfect/complete/equip", "*stērixai*": "establish/confirm/strengthen", "*sthenōsai*": "strengthen/empower/make strong", "*themeliōsai*": "ground/establish firmly/lay a foundation" } }